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ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: March 9th, 2013, 11:35 am
by JoanneShaw
I am hoping to add expiration dates to our Tribal ID Cards. Is it advisable to have both the Date Issued and the Expiration Date on the ID Card? Is it valid to only show the expiration date on the ID Card? Can you give me an acceptable date range for an expiration date? I am considering a four year limit. Thank You Joanne

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: March 11th, 2013, 8:38 am
by [TDR] Ross Hammer
There are no specific requirements that I am aware of regarding the inclusion of an Issue Date and the acceptable expiration range (neither the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative aka WHTI nor the REAL ID require an issue date, although it is an optional field). Generally, we see expiration periods in the 4 to 6 year range.

Ross Hammer - COO/HD
Tribal Data Resources

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: July 23rd, 2013, 9:46 am
by JoanneShaw
Thank You for your reply to my last question. Do you know if it is acceptable to import pictures and signatures from the tribal member for and ID Card with Expiration Dates? If the card is considered a valid ID are outside sources for pictures and signatures considered for use for ID Cards? When tribal members do not live in the state it is sometimes hard for them to come in for pictures and signatures and. I appreciate any help in this area. Thank You Joanne

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: July 24th, 2013, 8:41 am
by [TDR] Ross Hammer
The primary concern regarding identification card production for members via correspondence is achieving an appropriate level of confidence that the person making the request matches the information provided. This burden of proof may be more or less important, depending on what your tribal ID card is used for. If it is a WHTI or RealID card, then the requirements are more stringent and you should contact an appropriate State or US Federal information source for more information on their requirements, however if your card is only used for tribal identification or as a secondary identification, then it could be less important.
One thing to consider, to increase the reliability of submitted information, is to require a virtual face to face with the card applicant. Video chat technology is wide spread and easily accessed (personal phones, laptops or home computers, and internet or cyber cafes), so it could be easy enough to do a short 2 – 5 minute video call with an applicant to verify their information and that they are who they say they are.

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: March 4th, 2014, 3:25 pm
by JoanneShaw
When ID cards with expiration dates are renewed by mail by tribal members living out of state is it standard to issue a new card or can a sticker be issued to extend the renewal date until the tribal member can come in to renew the card in person?

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: March 5th, 2014, 9:55 am
by [TDR] Ross Hammer
We have not heard of any other customers using stickers. We know that card wear is a significant concern so I would not expect a sticker to last very long. Additionally, if the card is being used for anything other than tribal identification, there would be a high likelihood of refusal from businesses and other authorities. For these reasons, we recommend a full card reprint, not a sticker.

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: June 13th, 2014, 8:40 am
by JoanneShaw
I have spoken to other tribes in the area who are currently used ID cards with expiration dates and they are using the current methods to verify the identities of tribal members who live out the area. The photo used must be a passport photo, the signature to be used on the ID card must be notarized and they must submit a copy of their drivers license. If video conferencing is unavailable to the tribal member would this method be a valid option?

Re: ID Cards With Expiration Dates

PostPosted: June 16th, 2014, 8:01 am
by [TDR] Ross Hammer
JoanneShaw wrote:... The photo used must be a passport photo, the signature to be used on the ID card must be notarized and they must submit a copy of their drivers license. ...


That sounds like a reasonable, fairly reliable process to me, I cannot think of any particular issue with it.